Begginer Advantage of full frame over crop camera

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Jack

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A lot of professional photographs still prefers a full frame sensor because you'll get more light on the sensor which means lower ISO noise and a higher dynamic and colour depth.

But you'll need to come closer to your subject compared to an APS-C or MFT sensor which is a big disadvantage for macro photography.
Would you consider a full frame over crop camera if you'd have to get new body camera?
 

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A lot of professional photographs still prefers a full frame sensor because you'll get more light on the sensor which means lower ISO noise and a higher dynamic and colour depth.

But you'll need to come closer to your subject compared to an APS-C or MFT sensor which is a big disadvantage for macro photography.
No, but not because of the noise or the dynamic but more because of the fact, that it's more expensive and because I wouldn't be able to use my old macro nor my kit lens anymore.
 
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A lot of professional photographs still prefers a full frame sensor because you'll get more light on the sensor which means lower ISO noise and a higher dynamic and colour depth.

But you'll need to come closer to your subject compared to an APS-C or MFT sensor which is a big disadvantage for macro photography.
alright, agree they are expensive, I was looking at RP, and the good thing is that I can use my EF lenses through adapter. However, won't be able to afford, is not cheap at all. I would be more happy to get new lens instead of camera.
 

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I know when shooting with a crop camera, you get extra reach, which on Canon is 1.6x.
that's a huge misconception. you don't get more reach, you get a cropped image, hence the name "crop camera". take any image you currently have and crop it, have you got more reach? no, you just have cropped it.

as Helix_2648 Helix_2648 already pointed, you get better ISO and dinamic range. how much? that depends on the cameras that you compare, but around 1 stop of improvement.
they usually are smaller, lighter and cheaper. for macro, that higher pixel density means the subject looks bigger on a screen.

I would only switch to FF if I could afford a Sony A7RIV, a 61MP FF camera. 26MP if using it in crop mode, 2MP more than my Sony A6000. the bad thing would be that my computer would have some problems dealing with such big files.
 
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Crop sensors are 1.6x smaller than full frame so there is your answer right there, larger sensor = more light / less noise, more pixels / sharper image, more light / better colours,
And like Kzurro mentioned, you do not get more reach with a crop, you actually just get a smaller angle of view. So a 50mm lens on a crop sensor only captures an angle of view that is the same as an 80mm full frame, therefore you do not capture as wide a field of view using crop sensors which means less detail.
 
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Crop sensors are 1.6x smaller than full frame so there is your answer right there, larger sensor = more light / less noise, more pixels / sharper image, more light / better colours,
And like Kzurro mentioned, you do not get more reach with a crop, you actually just get a smaller angle of view. So a 50mm lens on a crop sensor only captures an angle of view that is the same as an 80mm full frame, therefore you do not capture as wide a field of view using crop sensors which means less detail.
I own canon 7d m2, when I had EF-S lens with it, I haven't noticed any crop, when using L lenses on it, I can see the crop. I know that EF L are made most for full frame cameras, and that's probably the reason why on APS-C sensor when using L lenses the crop is noticeable.
 

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Camera with crop sensor are good for macro or wildlife photography as long as there is enough light. I always had problems with my Canon 80D because from ISO 800-1600 the noise starts!
With the change to full format (Canon 6DMarkII), I can now shoot higher with the ISO value. However, must get now closer to the object.
Technical differences can be found on the net under "APS-C versus Full Format"
 

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I own canon 7d m2, when I had EF-S lens with it, I haven't noticed any crop, when using L lenses on it, I can see the crop. I know that EF L are made most for full frame cameras, and that's probably the reason why on APS-C sensor when using L lenses the crop is noticeable.
A bit outdated but the basics are still relevant, this article goes into more detail:
 
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Crop sensors are 1.6x smaller than full frame so there is your answer right there, larger sensor = more light / less noise, more pixels / sharper image, more light / better colours,
And like Kzurro mentioned, you do not get more reach with a crop, you actually just get a smaller angle of view. So a 50mm lens on a crop sensor only captures an angle of view that is the same as an 80mm full frame, therefore you do not capture as wide a field of view using crop sensors which means less detail.
a 50mm for FF and a 50mm for APS-C mounted both on an APS-C camera will provide the same field of view. if there is any difference is because a lot of lenses do not have the exact focal length labeled on them. this can be seen when a patent is published: an example with a 70-200mm.
 
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Crop sensors are 1.6x smaller than full frame so there is your answer right there, larger sensor = more light / less noise, more pixels / sharper image, more light / better colours,
And like Kzurro mentioned, you do not get more reach with a crop, you actually just get a smaller angle of view. So a 50mm lens on a crop sensor only captures an angle of view that is the same as an 80mm full frame, therefore you do not capture as wide a field of view using crop sensors which means less detail.
alright, so there is no crop difference at all whenever using EF L or EF S lenses on a APS-C camera?