Begginer Advantage of full frame over crop camera

Jack · Sep 27, 2021

This is a bit of beginner topic. But, what's the advantages shooting with full frame instead of crop sensor camera?

I own crop camera at the moment , and probably will have to upgrade in the future for a full frame body.

I know when shooting with a crop camera, you get extra reach, which on Canon is 1.6x.

Helix_2648 · Sep 27, 2021

A lot of professional photographs still prefers a full frame sensor because you'll get more light on the sensor which means lower ISO noise and a higher dynamic and colour depth.

But you'll need to come closer to your subject compared to an APS-C or MFT sensor which is a big disadvantage for macro photography.

kzurro · Sep 27, 2021

Jack said:
I know when shooting with a crop camera, you get extra reach, which on Canon is 1.6x.

that's a huge misconception. you don't get more reach, you get a cropped image, hence the name "crop camera". take any image you currently have and crop it, have you got more reach? no, you just have cropped it.

as

Helix_2648 already pointed, you get better ISO and dinamic range. how much? that depends on the cameras that you compare, but around 1 stop of improvement.

Jack · Sep 27, 2021

Helix_2648 said:
A lot of professional photographs still prefers a full frame sensor because you'll get more light on the sensor which means lower ISO noise and a higher dynamic and colour depth.

But you'll need to come closer to your subject compared to an APS-C or MFT sensor which is a big disadvantage for macro photography.

So you saying that is better to invest in a full frame body camera instead of CROP?

Jack · Sep 27, 2021

kzurro said:
Jack said:

I know when shooting with a crop camera, you get extra reach, which on Canon is 1.6x.

Click to expand...

that's a huge misconception. you don't get more reach, you get a cropped image, hence the name "crop camera". take any image you currently have and crop it, have you got more reach? no, you just have cropped it.

as Helix_2648 already pointed, you get better ISO and dinamic range. how much? that depends on the cameras that you compare, but around 1 stop of improvement.

So by shooting using a crop camera, the photo quality is affected somehow because the sensor is smaller?

kzurro · Sep 27, 2021

kzurro said:
Jack said:

I know when shooting with a crop camera, you get extra reach, which on Canon is 1.6x.

Click to expand...

that's a huge misconception. you don't get more reach, you get a cropped image, hence the name "crop camera". take any image you currently have and crop it, have you got more reach? no, you just have cropped it.

as Helix_2648 already pointed, you get better ISO and dinamic range. how much? that depends on the cameras that you compare, but around 1 stop of improvement.

the smaller sensor usually has a higher pixel density, meaning smaller pixels and that means more noise. a 24MP FF sensor would show less noise than a 24MP APS-C sensor (if both use the same technology), as to fit the same amount of pixels in a smaller APS-C sensor, the pixels have to be smaller.
if you compare a FF sensor with a similar pixel density or pixel size as an APS-C sensor, that would mean a 61MP FF sensor vs. a 24MP APS-C sensor (using Canon crop factor), things would look really similar in terms of noise, at least when pixel peeping. if you zoom out to view the whole image or print it, the FF sensor will look better, again, as you have to zoom out more due to the higher pixel count and noise is then less noticeable.

Jack · Sep 27, 2021

kzurro said:
Jack said:

I know when shooting with a crop camera, you get extra reach, which on Canon is 1.6x.

Click to expand...

that's a huge misconception. you don't get more reach, you get a cropped image, hence the name "crop camera". take any image you currently have and crop it, have you got more reach? no, you just have cropped it.

as Helix_2648 already pointed, you get better ISO and dinamic range. how much? that depends on the cameras that you compare, but around 1 stop of improvement.

thanks K kzurro , I think that makes sense. I saw a lot of wild life photographers are using APS-C cameras, i believe that due of "extra reach" to the subject.

Is there any advantages of using crop cameras?

Helix_2648 · Sep 27, 2021

Helix_2648 said:
A lot of professional photographs still prefers a full frame sensor because you'll get more light on the sensor which means lower ISO noise and a higher dynamic and colour depth.

But you'll need to come closer to your subject compared to an APS-C or MFT sensor which is a big disadvantage for macro photography.

Depends on what you want to photograph. An APS-C or MFT might be better for Macros. A FF is for sure better for portrait or landscape photography.

Jack · Sep 27, 2021

Helix_2648 said:
A lot of professional photographs still prefers a full frame sensor because you'll get more light on the sensor which means lower ISO noise and a higher dynamic and colour depth.

But you'll need to come closer to your subject compared to an APS-C or MFT sensor which is a big disadvantage for macro photography.

Thanks

Helix_2648 , I do like to shoot landscape sometimes. I also believe that there is different resolution as well?

Helix_2648 · Sep 27, 2021

Helix_2648 said:
A lot of professional photographs still prefers a full frame sensor because you'll get more light on the sensor which means lower ISO noise and a higher dynamic and colour depth.

But you'll need to come closer to your subject compared to an APS-C or MFT sensor which is a big disadvantage for macro photography.

I'm not sure but I think yes.

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